The Ambulance Service states it has met NHS Pathways training requirements and believes further algorithm concerns should be directed to the Department of Health. They are open to sharing their Serious Incident report with IC24. (AI summary)
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South East Coast Ambulance Service [NHS] NHS Foundation Trust believe this demonstrates that training is incorporated as per NHS Pathways requirements and that further developments and implementation of training have already occurred post the KMSS 111 call regarding Mrs Ellis. concerns regarding the content and degree of training would consider be appropriately directed to the Department of Health as suggested during the proceedings as own the system, training and auditing requirements. Indeed as you note in your report, our Senior Manager for Quality and Clinical Governance had previously raised concerns to the Pathways team regarding the algorithm and impact regarding not only Mrs Ellis' case but anyone in a similar situation regarding anticoagulants. The principle areas of concern raised regarded the blood loss, clinical shock and anticoagulant questions: am therefore confident our Trust has already done all it can in relation to improving this algorithm by raising and following up on concerns through the appropriate governance channels: Unfortunately our Trust has not received a conclusion regarding these concerns from NHS Pathways. With these concerns appearing to directly correlate to the points of the regulation 28 report likewise consider these directed to the Department of Health Turning to the matter of a joint RCA, our Trust is always open to cross-NHS collaboration and review to strive to ensure safe patient care can be provided. However the regulation 28 report does not comment on what is expected to be achieved by a joint RCA and therefore it is difficult to respond: am aware that both our Trust and IC24 have completed Serious Incident (Sl) reports and are happy to share findings and if not already in place a date can be set: However our organisations are independent of each other and we do not receive communication from an out of hours provider following such a disposition being reached and a referral passed: In turn we have no further control in the matter unless we receive a further call either following up for an out of hours call or due to change in condition. In each case KMSS 111 is able to appropriately process the call. In summary believe the KMSS 111 service of our Trust has already done all it can in relation to implementing training in accordance with NHS Pathways requirements and residual concerns on the algorithm and training should be appropriately addressed to the Department of Health who own the system: We are willingly open to sharing the findings of our Sl report with IC24 and will seek to confirm a date to complete this trust this clarifies our response to the regulation 28 report;