Select Committee · Public Accounts Committee

Bounce Back Loans Scheme: Follow-up

Status: Closed Opened: 26 Nov 2021 Closed: 5 Dec 2022 17 recommendations 9 conclusions 1 report

In December 2020 the Committee published its first report on the “Bounce Back Loan” Scheme offered to registered - and unregistered - small businesses to help them get through and recover from Government-mandated closures and loss of business revenues during lockdown. At that time the PAC concluded that billions of pounds of taxpayers’ money was … Show more

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Reports

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Title HC No. Published Items Response
Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Scheme: Follow-up HC 951 27 Apr 2022 26 Responded

Recommendations & Conclusions

23 items
3 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The Department has been complacent in preventing Scheme fraud and its prioritisation of ‘top tier’...

The Department has been complacent in preventing Scheme fraud and its prioritisation of ‘top tier’ fraudsters puts other government Schemes at risk. The risks that we identified at the outset of the Scheme have now materialised. The Department requested, and received, a ministerial direction at the start of the Scheme … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees and states that in the event of another crisis similar in scale to the COVID-19 pandemic, the government would again need to consider the trade-offs between the generosity and speed of a loan guarantee scheme, and the consequent risks for value for …
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HM Treasury
4 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

We are concerned that the Department is placing too much reliance on lenders to minimise...

We are concerned that the Department is placing too much reliance on lenders to minimise taxpayer losses without incentivising them to do so. When the Scheme launched the Department relied solely on lenders to prevent taxpayer losses by requiring them to do ‘know your customer’, and ‘anti-money laundering’ and some … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees and says that the Bank assesses lenders’ compliance through its audit programme and can take remedial action and issue financial penalties to encourage lenders to identify and recover fraudulent loans. The FCA is working collaboratively with the Bank, the department and HM …
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HM Treasury
5 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

It is unacceptable that the Department has no plans to recover outstanding debt after lenders...

It is unacceptable that the Department has no plans to recover outstanding debt after lenders have pursued borrowers for up to 12 months. There is no minimum term that lenders are required to pursue borrowers for payments. Lenders are not expected to continue to pursue borrowers after 12 months. Lenders … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the recommendation to set out its strategy for collecting overdue payments after the lenders have completed their 12-month requirements and aims to implement it by Winter 2022. The long term BBLS counter fraud strategy will address the department’s strategy for enforcement …
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HM Treasury
6 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The Scheme has distorted the Small and Medium Enterprise (SME) lending market in favour of...

The Scheme has distorted the Small and Medium Enterprise (SME) lending market in favour of the largest UK banks, which goes against the Bank’s objective of creating a diverse finance market for SMEs. The Scheme’s low interest rate made it uneconomical for smaller or alternative lenders to participate to the … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the Committee’s recommendation for the Bank to develop a strategy to mitigate the negative impact of the Scheme on the SME lending market and publish its findings in its next Small Business Finance Market report. The next iteration of the Small …
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HM Treasury
8 Conclusion Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The Department’s estimate of the credit loss within the Scheme is also uncertain, as there...

The Department’s estimate of the credit loss within the Scheme is also uncertain, as there is no credit score data for borrowers because this was not a scheme requirement. Repayments will also be affected by future macroeconomic conditions which are themselves uncertain. In addition, because loans did not begin repayment … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department has worked with the Bank to develop analytical and forward-looking expected credit loss models that are compliant with International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS 9), which provide a sophisticated approach to forecasting expected credit losses across the COVID-19 loan guarantee schemes, utilising granular data …
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HM Treasury
9 Conclusion Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The Bank began collecting Scheme loan data from the 24 Scheme lenders in July 2021,...

The Bank began collecting Scheme loan data from the 24 Scheme lenders in July 2021, where lenders provide data to the Bank via a collections system. The Bank said that it holds loan data from lenders across 70 different datapoints, including the name and address of the borrower, term of … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government details its extensive existing work with the Bank of England and other bodies, explaining how they already collect, analyze, and enrich data to assess fraud risk, identify suspected fraudulent actors across schemes, and manage lender performance, in collaboration with HMRC.
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HM Treasury
10 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The Scheme rules required commercial lenders to deliver loans and pursue recovery processes in line...

The Scheme rules required commercial lenders to deliver loans and pursue recovery processes in line with their existing business-as-usual standards. The Department and HM Treasury stated that the majority of recoveries and counter-fraud efforts comes from lenders. The Department told us that the commercial banking sector was the “best of … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the committee’s recommendation to improve lenders’ performance in managing loans and risks to the taxpayer by legal, regulatory and contractual incentives and states that ongoing management of the BBLS and associated financial risks remains one of the highest priorities for the …
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11 Conclusion Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

Although the Department referred to lenders as the “arms and legs” of the Scheme, none...

Although the Department referred to lenders as the “arms and legs” of the Scheme, none of the witnesses could tell us how much lenders are spending on counter-fraud activities. The FCA said, for example, that lenders had “scaled up quite significantly”, but it could not tell us when they had … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the committee’s recommendation to improve lenders’ performance in managing loans and risks to the taxpayer by legal, regulatory and contractual incentives and states that ongoing management of the BBLS and associated financial risks remains one of the highest priorities for the …
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12 Conclusion Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The Scheme requires lenders to pursue borrowers for missed repayments for up to 12 months...

The Scheme requires lenders to pursue borrowers for missed repayments for up to 12 months after the issue of a formal demand. The Department initially told us that lenders had to wait until after the 12 month period to make a claim on the guarantee.25 However, it wrote to us … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the committee’s recommendation to improve lenders’ performance in managing loans and risks to the taxpayer by legal, regulatory and contractual incentives and states that ongoing management of the BBLS and associated financial risks remains one of the highest priorities for the …
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13 Conclusion Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The NAO reported that the arrangements for pursuing borrowers offered limited commercial incentive for lenders...

The NAO reported that the arrangements for pursuing borrowers offered limited commercial incentive for lenders to maximise recovery of overdue loans.28 In contrast, the Bank told us that it believed that lenders have strong legal, contractual and regulatory obligations to recover loans. This included oversight by the FCA and lender … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the committee’s recommendation to improve lenders’ performance in managing loans and risks to the taxpayer by legal, regulatory and contractual incentives and states that ongoing management of the BBLS and associated financial risks remains one of the highest priorities for the …
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HM Treasury
14 Conclusion Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

Almost 86,000 borrowers have been in arrears for more than 90 days as of 10...

Almost 86,000 borrowers have been in arrears for more than 90 days as of 10 January 2022.34 We asked the Department what steps it was taking to ensure that its approach to recovering loans was as effective as possible and made best use of the data available to it. We … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department, working with other government and non-governmental bodies, already collects an extensive amount of data resources for fraud risk assessment and identification analysis.
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15 Conclusion Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The Department and the Bank recognised that there was a trade-off between getting loans to...

The Department and the Bank recognised that there was a trade-off between getting loans to businesses quickly by removing lender checks and slowing down the delivery of the loans by putting in place more counter-fraud measures. The Bank said that this would have had consequences for the economy, but argued … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the Committee’s recommendation that next time the Department launches an emergency business support scheme, it should be explicit on the trade-offs and level of fraud it is prepared to tolerate from the outset. It mentions the COVID-19 pandemic required an extraordinary …
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16 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The Scheme has also made trade-offs in its response to countering fraud and the associated...

The Scheme has also made trade-offs in its response to countering fraud and the associated deterrent effects. The Department based its counter-fraud response on the 31 Qq 15, 16 32 Qq 74–75 33 Qq 74–75, 83 34 Correspondence from Catherine Lewis La Torre, Chief Executive, British Business Bank, Re Bounce … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the Committee’s recommendation that next time the Department launches an emergency business support scheme, it should be explicit on the trade-offs and level of fraud it is prepared to tolerate from the outset. It mentions the COVID-19 pandemic required an extraordinary …
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17 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

We asked the Department if it was confident that enough was being done to tackle...

We asked the Department if it was confident that enough was being done to tackle medium and bottom-tier fraud, to ensure there is a sufficient deterrent for smaller-scale fraud. It recognised that deterrence is “important” and was “on their minds”. In such cases, the Department said that although criminal prosecution … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the recommendation to be explicit on the trade-offs and level of fraud it is prepared to tolerate from the outset next time the Department launches an emergency business support scheme. The BBLS was implemented under Ministerial Direction, and the exchange of …
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18 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

We reported previously that the Department had no apparent plans to measure the Scheme’s long-term...

We reported previously that the Department had no apparent plans to measure the Scheme’s long-term impact, and no agreed performance measures.44 In its Treasury Minute response to our report, the Department gave a high-level summary of the Scheme’s evaluation plans which aimed for an initial assessment by Autumn 2021. However, … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the recommendation to put in place a clear strategy to manage the long-term legacy of the Scheme and aims to implement it by Autumn 2022. They are formalizing a long-term strategy to counter fraud in the BBLS, building on work to …
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19 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

We asked the Department whether it currently had the information that it needed to determine...

We asked the Department whether it currently had the information that it needed to determine whether the Scheme had been a success. The Department told us that it considered that the quality of information that it had about what was currently happening with the Scheme was “very good”, but there … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees and will put in place a clear strategy to manage the long-term legacy of the Scheme within a month of the publication of its evaluation report, expected in Autumn 2022, including formalizing a strategy that will set out its long-term approach to …
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20 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

Business survival rates are a key metric for measuring the Scheme’s impact.

Business survival rates are a key metric for measuring the Scheme’s impact. The Bank has commissioned an external evaluation study, which will report in stages over the next three years.50 We therefore asked the Department when we could expect to see the results from the first stage of its evaluation. … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the recommendation to put in place a clear strategy to manage the long-term legacy of the Scheme and aims to implement it by Autumn 2022. They are formalizing a long-term strategy to counter fraud in the BBLS, building on work to …
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HM Treasury
21 Conclusion Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

Lenders used their own funds to make Scheme loans, with government guaranteeing to reimburse lenders...

Lenders used their own funds to make Scheme loans, with government guaranteeing to reimburse lenders if borrowers do not repay. How lenders raise funds differs according to size and type of lender; the more cheaply they can raise funds the more profitable the loans might be. While many large lenders … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the committee's observation that the SME lending market has recovered to its pre-pandemic state. It states that the Bank of England continues to improve the diversity of finance products and providers through existing programmes.
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22 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The NAO reported that there were seven accredited lenders when the Scheme launched in May...

The NAO reported that there were seven accredited lenders when the Scheme launched in May 2020, consisting of five main UK banks and two other banks.55 The Bank acknowledged that it took several months to accredit the additional 21 of 28 lenders in total to the Scheme, by which time … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the recommendation for the Bank to develop a strategy to mitigate the negative impact of the Scheme on the SME lending market and publish its findings in its next Small Business Finance Market report, with a target implementation date of Spring …
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23 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

The Bank recognised that it was “absolutely true that [the Scheme] had a distortive effect”...

The Bank recognised that it was “absolutely true that [the Scheme] had a distortive effect” but suggested that this was “diluting over time”.59 It confirmed that it still had an objective of encouraging diversity in lending markets. It explained that it reports on market shares of lenders in its annual … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees and will have the Bank develop a strategy to mitigate the negative impact of the Scheme on the SME lending market and publish its findings in its next Small Business Finance Market report, expected in Q1 2023. The Bank's existing programmes continue …
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24 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

We highlighted previously that government needed to use the lessons learned from this Scheme to...

We highlighted previously that government needed to use the lessons learned from this Scheme to inform future schemes.62 We therefore asked the Department about examples of where it had identified and responded to lessons from the Scheme. The Department said that it had implemented learnings in the new Recovery Loan … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the recommendation to establish a strategy on how it intends to share lessons from the scheme and aims to implement it by Summer 2022. The department agreed to work in conjunction with HM Treasury and the Bank to produce a report …
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25 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

We were concerned that the Department should have identified these lessons when it supported businesses...

We were concerned that the Department should have identified these lessons when it supported businesses in the 2008 Financial Crisis. In 2010, the NAO’s report on the Department’s support to business during a recession concluded that the “impact [of the Department’s response to the financial crisis] could have been improved … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the recommendation to establish a strategy on how it intends to share lessons from the scheme and aims to implement it by Summer 2022. The department agreed to work in conjunction with HM Treasury and the Bank to produce a report …
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26 Recommendation Fiftieth Report - Bounce Back Loans Sch… Accepted

We asked whether, with hindsight and more time, it would have been possible to design...

We asked whether, with hindsight and more time, it would have been possible to design a scheme that would have had significantly less exposure to fraud and error than 61 Q104; Public Accounts Committee, Covid-19: Bounce Back Loan Scheme, Thirty-Third Report of Session 2019–21, HC 687, 16 December 2020, para … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government agrees with the recommendation to establish a strategy on how it intends to share lessons from the scheme and aims to implement it by Summer 2022. The department agreed to work in conjunction with HM Treasury and the Bank to produce a report …
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Oral evidence sessions

2 sessions
Date Witnesses
5 Dec 2022 Andrew Harrison · NatWest, Anne Boden · Starling Bank, Dave Newcombe · Paragon Banking Group, Gemma Peck · Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy, Karl Reid · HSBC, Sarah Munby · Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, Tom Taylor · Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy View ↗
10 Jan 2022 Catherine Lewis La Torre · British Business Bank, Charles Roxburgh · HM Treasury, Patrick Magee · British Business Bank, Sarah Munby · Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, Sheldon Mills · Financial Conduct Authority View ↗

Who gave evidence

11 witnesses
WitnessOrganisationSessions
Sarah Munby · Permanent Secretary Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy 2
Andrew Harrison · Head of Business Banking NatWest 1
Anne Boden · Founder and Chief Executive Starling Bank 1
Catherine Lewis La Torre · Chief Executive Officer British Business Bank 1
Charles Roxburgh · Second Permanent Secretary HM Treasury 1
Dave Newcombe · Managing Director Paragon Banking Group 1
Gemma Peck · Director Business Growth Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy 1
Karl Reid · Head of Government Lending within Commercial Bank… HSBC 1
Patrick Magee · Chief Commercial Officer British Business Bank 1
Sheldon Mills · Executive Director of Consumers and Competition Financial Conduct Authority 1
Tom Taylor · Strategic Finance Director and Chief Financial Of… Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy 1

Correspondence

5 letters
DateDirectionTitle
6 Dec 2022 Correspondence from Sarah Munby, Permanent Secretary for the Department for Bus…
22 Feb 2022 Correspondence from Sarah Munby Permanent Under-Secretary of State, Department …
31 Jan 2022 Correspondence from Catherine Lewis La Torre, Chief Executive, British Business…
11 Jan 2022 Correspondence from Sarah Munby, Permanent Secretary, Department for Business, …
11 Jan 2022 Correspondence from Stephen Pegge Managing Director, Commercial Finance UK Fina…