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Two of the delivery partners also sought a different funding approach, “based on outcomes rather than the number of needs, sessions and RAR days”. 364 They explained that, currently, when someone is referred to an organisation to complete RAR days, “the probation practitioner sets what those rehabilitation days are”. If, after having met the offender, the organisation believes that their needs would require a different intervention, they have two options: either the organisation complies and the offender “does not engage very positively, and we do not see the benefits”, or they “have to go back and amend the system”. 365 To ensure that they have “that positive approach right from the beginning”, Niki Scordi asked for “payment by results”, mentioning a “grant-based” approach. 366 Carrie Peters agreed that her organisation Ingeus “would like to be a genuine partner … and to be flexible and adapt as we go, and for the contract to be the agreement as to how we are going to work together; not to restrict, not to stifle, but to allow us to learn together and to get better at changing people’s lives”. 367 Damian Hinds MP pointed out that “payment by results” is “part of what the Transforming Rehabilitation programme was to do” and told us: “I want to make sure that we retain some of that ethos, bearing in mind that it is really hard to do a full payment-by-results model.” 368