Select Committee · Public Accounts Committee

Armoured Vehicles

Status: Closed Opened: 26 Jan 2022 Closed: 2 Sep 2022 5 recommendations 23 conclusions 1 report

The recent MoD Integrated Review reconfirmed that armoured vehicles remain a major part of the Ministry of Defence’s (MOD’s) land capability, being used to provide firepower, mobility and protection for service personnel and undertake reconnaissance. The MOD is seeking to modernise and upgrade its armoured vehicles and the Ajax family of armoured reconnaissance fighting vehicles … Show more

Reports

1 report
Title HC No. Published Items Response
Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the Ajax programme HC 259 3 Jun 2022 28 Responded

Recommendations & Conclusions

28 items
2 Recommendation Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Not Addressed

The Department has once again made fundamental mistakes in its planning and management of a...

The Department has once again made fundamental mistakes in its planning and management of a major equipment programme. Ajax’s design is based on a pre-existing vehicle, but the Department’s 1,200 capability requirements meant that, in effect, it was developed from scratch. However, the Department and General Dynamics did not fully … Read more

Government response AI summary
The response does not address the recommendation of writing to the Committee to set out how it will incorporate the Ajax Lessons Learned Review recommendations, and instead discusses internal performance measures and consultations with the sector.
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3 Recommendation Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Accepted

The failure to escalate and address noise and vibration issues in a timely manner shows...

The failure to escalate and address noise and vibration issues in a timely manner shows that the Department must simplify its over-complex safety processes and change behaviours. The Department acknowledges that it has injured some soldiers, which it rightly describes as “unforgivable”. It was slow to escalate concerns about noise … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department has accepted all the recommendations in the King Report relating to safety and armoured vehicle procurement.
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4 Recommendation Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

Nearly two years after identifying injuries to soldiers, the Department still does not know how...

Nearly two years after identifying injuries to soldiers, the Department still does not know how to fix the noise and vibration problems. General Dynamics must produce vehicles that are safe and has proposed modifications to reduce noise and vibration levels. The Department has commissioned trials to test the efficacy of … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department is focussed on identifying the root causes of the noise and vibration issues and will provide an update on progress to the Committee at the next Ajax evidence session.
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5 Recommendation Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Accepted

We are doubtful that the Department can recover the programme within existing costs and commercial...

We are doubtful that the Department can recover the programme within existing costs and commercial arrangements. The programme remains under significant pressure. It is more than a year behind even the revised schedule, trials involving Army crews have been suspended and noise and vibration issues remain unresolved. Despite these problems, … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government claims the robust firm price contract of £5.5 billion protects the taxpayer and has mechanisms to incentivise contractor performance.
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6 Recommendation Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department’s plans for using Ajax are at risk because of uncertainty about what constitutes...

The Department’s plans for using Ajax are at risk because of uncertainty about what constitutes full operating capability, when this will be achieved and how Ajax vehicles will be enhanced in the future. The Department’s original in-service date, 2017, was revised to June 2021, which has also been missed. It … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government acknowledges the need to establish realistic dates for initial and full operating capability as quickly as feasibly possible, once a suitable technical solution to the noise and vibration issues has been agreed.
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7 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Accepted

At the same time, the Army is undergoing a period of significant transformation, during which...

At the same time, the Army is undergoing a period of significant transformation, during which it will adjust its size, shape, and capabilities. It aims to have implemented the full changes, as outlined in the Integrated Review, by 2030. The Army told us it was “cautiously optimistic” that the full … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government's commitment to NATO will continue to be met through flexing the range of Defence and Army capabilities, and the department will continue to monitor the position as part of its regular reviews of capabilities to meet future threats.
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8 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Accepted

In the meantime, the Army was bullish about managing the implications of delays to introducing...

In the meantime, the Army was bullish about managing the implications of delays to introducing Ajax and its ability to meet its NATO commitments.15 However, it has had to plan a series of operational compromises to achieve this, such as continuing to use Challenger 2 tanks and ageing Warrior armoured … Read more

Government response AI summary
The government's commitment to NATO will continue to be met through flexing the range of Defence and Army capabilities, and the department will continue to monitor the position as part of its regular reviews of capabilities to meet future threats.
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9 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

Ajax’s design was based on a pre-existing vehicle, but the Department stipulated 1,200 capability requirements...

Ajax’s design was based on a pre-existing vehicle, but the Department stipulated 1,200 capability requirements which meant that, in effect, it had to be developed from scratch. The Department told us that, with hindsight, having so many detailed requirements had not helped it obtain the capability it wanted in the … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department is taking actions recommended by the NAO, has accepted recommendations made in the King Report and in the Committee report, and will consider recommendations from the Ajax Lessons Learned Review.
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10 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department told us it had reviewed its approach so that it no longer fell...

The Department told us it had reviewed its approach so that it no longer fell into the trap of setting an excessive number of requirements. It said it now only approved programmes with a reasonable number of requirements, such as the 150 to 200 for the purchase of Boxer and … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department states it is taking actions recommended by the NAO to improve the effectiveness of the Ajax programme, has accepted recommendations made in the King Report and in this Committee report, and that insights from the independent Ajax Lessons Learned Review will be considered.
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11 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The problems on the Ajax programme were exacerbated by inadequate governance and programme management failures.

The problems on the Ajax programme were exacerbated by inadequate governance and programme management failures. The current senior responsible owner, appointed in October 2021, is the first to be full-time, although his corporate responsibilities take up about 5% of his time. The Department said that his role as head of … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department states it is taking actions recommended by the NAO to improve the effectiveness of the Ajax programme, has accepted recommendations made in the King Report and in this Committee report, and that insights from the independent Ajax Lessons Learned Review will be considered.
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12 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department admitted that the programme’s reset in 2018 had been disappointing, and it recognised...

The Department admitted that the programme’s reset in 2018 had been disappointing, and it recognised that the revised programme schedule had been unrealistic.24 It said it had attempted to meet the planned in-service date by accepting an incremental build-up of capability, using a series of ‘capability drops’. By this arrangement, … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department states it is taking actions recommended by the NAO to improve the effectiveness of the Ajax programme, has accepted recommendations made in the King Report and in this Committee report, and that insights from the independent Ajax Lessons Learned Review will be considered.
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13 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department explained that for complex, technologically advanced programmes, it was usual to have a...

The Department explained that for complex, technologically advanced programmes, it was usual to have a profile of upfront investment before the manufacture phase began.26 When the Department awarded the manufacture contract in 2014, it included some overlap of demonstration and manufacture phases, thinking this would reduce the risk of missing … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department is taking actions recommended by the NAO, has accepted recommendations made in the King Report and in the Committee report, and will consider recommendations from the Ajax Lessons Learned Review.
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14 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Accepted

In 2021, the Department acknowledged publicly concerns about excessive levels of noise and vibration on...

In 2021, the Department acknowledged publicly concerns about excessive levels of noise and vibration on the Ajax vehicles. The Department admitted that because of shortcomings with its safety processes, which made it complicated to raise issues, it had injured some of its own soldiers, which it rightly described as “unforgivable”.29 … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department has accepted all the recommendations in the King Report relating to safety and armoured vehicle procurement, with some already implemented and the remainder being progressed.
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15 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Accepted

In June 2021 the Department commissioned David King, its Director Health, Safety and Environmental Protection,...

In June 2021 the Department commissioned David King, its Director Health, Safety and Environmental Protection, to assess whether correct health and safety procedures had been followed. His report, published in December 2021, concluded that collective failings enabled activity to continue when it should have been stopped or paused until stronger … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department has accepted all the recommendations in the King Report relating to safety and armoured vehicle procurement, with some already implemented and the remainder being progressed.
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16 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Army told us it now placed greater emphasis on safety and looking after its...

The Army told us it now placed greater emphasis on safety and looking after its personnel and that it had made “huge strides”. However, it acknowledged that it continued to be on a learning curve and that it still had more to do to improve safety. The Department said it … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department has accepted all the recommendations in the King Report relating to safety and armoured vehicle procurement, some of which have already been implemented and the remainder are being progressed.
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17 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department said that Ajax’s safety problems had highlighted broader issues around noise-induced hearing loss,...

The Department said that Ajax’s safety problems had highlighted broader issues around noise-induced hearing loss, which formed the largest number of claims in the armed forces compensation scheme. It has commissioned the vice-chief of the defence staff and the second permanent secretary to examine the causes of those claims to … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department has accepted all the recommendations in the King Report relating to safety and armoured vehicle procurement, some of which have already been implemented and the remainder are being progressed.
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18 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

Under the terms of the contract, General Dynamics is responsible for ensuring that Ajax vehicles...

Under the terms of the contract, General Dynamics is responsible for ensuring that Ajax vehicles are safe by design. The Department oversees and monitors this, conducting trials to ensure the vehicles are safe to use.35 The two parties disagreed on whether the levels of noise and vibration in Ajax vehicles … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department is focussed on identifying the root causes of the noise and vibration issues and will provide an update on progress to the Committee at the next Ajax evidence session.
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19 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department told us that its contract with General Dynamics was to produce vehicles at...

The Department told us that its contract with General Dynamics was to produce vehicles at an acceptable level of noise using existing headsets. It asserted that those headsets performed as it had assumed they would when the contract was let, something which General Dynamics disputes. However, the Department admitted that … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department is focused on identifying the root causes of the noise and vibration issues and will provide an update on progress to the Committee at the next Ajax evidence session.
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20 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

General Dynamics has proposed modifications to vehicles that seek to reduce the impact of noise...

General Dynamics has proposed modifications to vehicles that seek to reduce the impact of noise and vibration on crews and include, for example, the damping of hand controllers and seating, and changes to improve body posture. However, the Department said it still needed to test the whole system—including the communications … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department is focussed on identifying the root causes of the noise and vibration issues and will provide an update on progress to the Committee at the next Ajax evidence session.
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21 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department accepted that it cannot be certain the programme will not encounter further technical...

The Department accepted that it cannot be certain the programme will not encounter further technical or safety issues, stating that it is usual for engineering development on this scale to encounter challenges as it goes through the development cycle. It acknowledged that it is still testing compliance with the specifications … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department is focused on identifying the root causes of the noise and vibration issues and will provide an update on progress to the Committee at the next Ajax evidence session.
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22 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The programme remains under significant pressure.

The programme remains under significant pressure. When the NAO reported, the programme was more than a year behind the revised schedule, trials involving Army crews had been suspended and noise and vibration issues remained unresolved.47 General Dynamics had continued to produce Ajax vehicles despite not receiving any payment since December … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department is focused on identifying the root causes of the noise and vibration issues and will provide an update on progress to the Committee at the next Ajax evidence session.
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23 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Accepted

The Department said it intended to continue holding General Dynamics to the current firm-priced contract...

The Department said it intended to continue holding General Dynamics to the current firm-priced contract for delivery of 589 vehicles.49 Despite remaining in contractual dispute, the Department claimed that its relationship with General Dynamics was good and that both parties were working collaboratively. It was seeking to resolve the technical … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department states that it has a robust firm price contract of £5.5 billion that protects the taxpayer and includes mechanisms to incentivise contractor performance.
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24 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department told us that it had consulted the Infrastructure and Projects Authority and HM...

The Department told us that it had consulted the Infrastructure and Projects Authority and HM Treasury about its plan for restoring effective governance to the programme. It said it needed to resolve the current technical issues and gain approval for any changes to the schedule and definitions of capability, including … Read more

Government response AI summary
The Department acknowledges the need to establish realistic dates for initial and full operating capability once a suitable technical solution to the noise and vibration issues has been agreed, and notes the King Report's recommendation for a realistic delivery schedule with contingency.
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25 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

In 2010, when the Department let the design contract, its planning assumption was that Ajax...

In 2010, when the Department let the design contract, its planning assumption was that Ajax would enter service in early 2017. It extended the expected in-service date by three 44 Q 49 45 C&AG’s Report, para 15 46 Q 87 47 C&AG’s Report, para 16 48 Qq 19, 20, 26, … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department states it is taking actions recommended by the NAO to improve the effectiveness of the Ajax programme, has accepted recommendations made in the King Report and in this Committee report, and that insights from the independent Ajax Lessons Learned Review will be considered.
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26 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department told us that it faced choices about the level of capability at initial...

The Department told us that it faced choices about the level of capability at initial and full operating capability milestones. It said it would look again at the definition of what was required, considering incremental development of the vehicles.55 The Department admitted it had already accepted concessions against the original … Read more

Government response AI summary
The Department acknowledges the need to establish realistic dates for initial and full operating capability once a suitable technical solution to the noise and vibration issues has been agreed, and notes the King Report's recommendation for a realistic delivery schedule with contingency.
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27 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

Delivering the full Ajax capability depends on the Department delivering supporting programmes, including new communication...

Delivering the full Ajax capability depends on the Department delivering supporting programmes, including new communication systems, training facilities and infrastructure projects to store the vehicles.58 The Army will also need to transport the vehicles to military operations.59 However, the Department has encountered difficulties in delivering the enabling programmes needed to … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department acknowledges the need to establish realistic dates for initial and full operating capability and is working to put the program on a sure footing, taking into account enabling programs.
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28 Conclusion Seventh Report - Armoured Vehicles: the… Acknowledged

The Department told us it is seeking to design its new armoured vehicles, including Boxer...

The Department told us it is seeking to design its new armoured vehicles, including Boxer and Challenger, to make through-life capability management easier. It recognised the need to update capabilities as new technologies emerge and keep pace with emerging military threats.61 It expected its new armoured vehicles to have a … Read more

Government response AI summary
The department is actively taking actions recommended by the National Audit Office and has accepted the recommendations made in the King Report and this Committee report and insights from the Ajax Lessons Learned Review will help deliver major programmes more effectively in future.
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Oral evidence sessions

1 session
Date Witnesses
30 Mar 2022 Andrew Forzani · Ministry of Defence, David Marsh · The St Martin’s Group, David Williams · Daily Mail, Lt General Christopher Tickell CBE · Ministry of Defence View ↗

Who gave evidence

4 witnesses
WitnessOrganisationSessions
Andrew Forzani · Director General of Commercial Ministry of Defence 1
David Marsh · Chair The St Martin’s Group 1
David Williams · Journalist Daily Mail 1
Lt General Christopher Tickell CBE · Deputy Chief of the General Staff and Portfolio D… Ministry of Defence 1